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1aveator |
\"It should be on poor health individuals to take that precation\"- what kinds of poor health are you refering to? | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
If you are immuno compromised then don't go to a bar, or a concert, or whatever, if your worried about drunk drivers, stay off the road. How is that complicated? | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
What are you talking about? I gave an example, that wasnt it, your making stuff up | ||
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1aveator |
Im actually agrueing for persnal resposibility not authoritarianism | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
Your grasping straws now, you get the point, you have no counter other than you want more authoritarianism to feel safe | ||
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1aveator |
What kinds of health should we bar from society? who is the arbiter in that? | ||
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1aveator |
I dont have to drive to be hit by a drunk | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
It should be on poor health individuals to take that precation, just like it's on you to decide you shouldnt drive if your at risk getting hit by a drunk. It's really that simple | ||
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1aveator |
And not having a mandate would be the best | ||
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1aveator |
and big pharma making money is not a justifiable excuse to that. This is a problem but its a different problem. | ||
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1aveator |
@BasiloneReborn Im saying if you participate in a society in which vulnerable people are at risk through your direct actions, knowlengly or not, you have an obligation to lower the risk towards the negative impact to overall health | ||
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basilonereborn |
are you saying everyone should have to get vaccinated because they could encounter someone immuno compromised that cant get the vaccine | ||
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1aveator |
I choose to drive because I know the risks. We can lower the risk by restricting liberty with regards to blood alchohal content and compliance checks | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
Imagine if we banned swimming pools, because you know, a few kids drown in them every year. How far do we go? | ||
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capricciosa |
You have been playing too much Deus-ex eggscom | ||
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1aveator |
and to be clear I agree with xcom about mandates. But they just choose another issue about the illuminati or Big pharma | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
Is how your treating rona, it's dumb | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
You shouldn't drive because you might get hit by a drunk. | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
No it doesn't | ||
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1aveator |
@ilikecakeyo That suggests we do nothing about drunk drivers | ||
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1aveator |
@BasiloneReborn and the risk of hospitaliztion or death is lowered | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
Exactly, we can't control everything, you just solved your own argument | ||
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1aveator |
@1aveator Because I can follow the rules of the road or not even drive but still be impacted by their choices | ||
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basilonereborn |
and if you are vaccinated you can still transmit anyway | ||
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basilonereborn |
will if those people are vaccinated then it doesnt matter | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
@1aveator I dunno if everyone on the road i'm driving isn't drunk. Why are we going down this road? How far down it do we go? | ||
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1aveator |
I mean I can know my own health and the risks that I am willing to take. Most people do not know the health of everyone they interact with that the risk is higher. | ||
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ilikecakeyo |
Rona will continue to mutate because it's that type of virus. Everyone vaccinated won't stop it, look at Omnicron numbers, vaccinated people are getting it. | ||
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capricciosa |
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