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Jul 27, 2022 09:43:36

jl_jt

corporations are evil too sometimes
Jul 27, 2022 09:43:04

nubb3r

its only a matter of time till these systems backfire, like all systems regardless of style. democratic and free succumb to lobbyism, lack of funding in important infrastructure, education and lastly the stupidity of the average voter. the totalitarians get overthrown. both processes can take a decade or a few centuries. The only thing im not sure about is whether or not I want the chinese system to succeed or fail.
Jul 27, 2022 09:42:47

jl_jt

but whats the alternative? Being addicted to heroin or the interent?
Jul 27, 2022 09:42:12

jl_jt

if it ain't broke don't fix it
Jul 27, 2022 09:39:50

nubb3r

those are in the ruling class, think oligarchs, so they know to abide or they are very short lived
Jul 27, 2022 09:39:30

badass_jellykin

only ever learning by rote it is tricky to get any kind of lateral thought in there, i did meet several students in china who were very lovely and introspective, but who knows now
Jul 27, 2022 09:39:07

nubb3r

thats why defectants can never return
Jul 27, 2022 09:39:05

jl_jt

@XcomReborn its like brain poison?
Jul 27, 2022 09:38:29

nubb3r

control of information and lack of education is uinbeatable
Jul 27, 2022 09:37:48

jl_jt

Germans and Dutch have good English
Jul 27, 2022 09:37:42

jl_jt

Russians and Chinese have dogshit English
Jul 27, 2022 09:37:21

jl_jt

LUL
Jul 27, 2022 09:37:09

badass_jellykin

you are talking out of your sacle
Jul 27, 2022 09:36:48

nubb3r

thats like asking people in red square if they agree with the russiam gov
Jul 27, 2022 09:36:29

jl_jt

@XcomReborn how would you rate German people's English from a sacle of 1-10?
Jul 27, 2022 09:36:24

badass_jellykin

16 years ago when I was there some stuff was blocked (like the BBC) but you could get around it with annonymouse, I would imagine things have changed in the intervening times
Jul 27, 2022 09:36:06

jl_jt

he has no idea what it is
Jul 27, 2022 09:36:03

jl_jt

i told him to look up onlyfans
Jul 27, 2022 09:35:57

jl_jt

but Stronger
Jul 27, 2022 09:35:55

jl_jt

Wudi has no western interent
Jul 27, 2022 09:35:51

nubb3r

if only there was an amazing source of information that you could use
Jul 27, 2022 09:35:16

nubb3r

chinese people say that
Jul 27, 2022 09:34:38

nubb3r

Ive been told thats like preventing western TV in east germany. Everybody had their antennas pointed westwards visibly and noone cared and I imagine the great firewall exactly the same. Anybody who wants to, can access the \"real\" web
Jul 27, 2022 09:34:12

jl_jt

imagine never knowing what a gloryhole is NotLikeThis
Jul 27, 2022 09:34:06

nubb3r

you dont want 1 billion people revolting either @jl_jt
Jul 27, 2022 09:33:52

jl_jt

@XcomReborn YOu're telling me they don't get to watch Amazing Gloryhole porn? cmonBruh
Jul 27, 2022 09:33:52

badass_jellykin

Weibo
Jul 27, 2022 09:33:34

jl_jt

@Nubb3r you don't want a nation of degenerates
Jul 27, 2022 09:32:36

nubb3r

interesting decision for the communist party: restrict internet so people dont westernize but bored citizens have to time to protest and think about their miserable system. I'd rather let the population succumb to anime porn addiction and keep ruling
Jul 27, 2022 09:31:57

jl_jt

you can't get addicted to porn if you're only allowed interent for 1 houra day

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