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ilikecakeyo

Covid spreads anyway vax or no vax, already been established. Imagine if this was like smallpox and it wasn't mutating, we wouldnt have this discussion rn.

1aveator

Whats the case basilone? any references I can look at?

basilonereborn

if the worst side effect of the vaccine was a 2 day moderate illness id probably see things differently but that isnt the case

1aveator

Whats my extent cake?

1aveator

But doesnt spreading covid give people risk?

ilikecakeyo

Again goes back to how far we take it, i don't agree to the extent your taking it to.

basilonereborn

im not saying someone with ebola should be able to walk around freely willy nilly and infect everyone else because they dont want to quarantine, but no you shouldnt be expected to take a risk because there is a possibility that could put someone else at risk

1aveator

The responsibility rests on all of us. Each person has their own resposibility to the whole of society

ilikecakeyo

The responsibility falls on the high risk individuals, and if they choose to live life like 2019 i support them.

1aveator

@1aveator I am advicating for the lack of mandates not more. Im just saying doing nothing is not responsible

ilikecakeyo

@1aveator I don't think we agree, your idea of personal responsibilty revolves around athoritarian views, mine don't.

1aveator

its 2021. We have the science to understand this kind of stuff. We dont have the culture to do \"enough\" about it

1aveator

Thats almost like saying if I am in good health, I dont want to take any risk other than what I consider to be a signicant risk? Almost like your life in that regard is some how more valuable than the arbitrary health of those at risk?

basilonereborn

thats not an absolute position i could see the situation changing depending on the severity of the virus, a long history of the vaccine, etc. but not in this particular situation with covid

vhsjames

Immagine bing in this chat and not being a mod, must feel strange

basilonereborn

even setting policy aside i dont see why i should have a moral imperative to potentially jeopardize my own health to accomodate someone else a portion of society has arbitrarily decided their health is more valuable

1aveator

they often do not live in a bubble and spread the disease on their way to recovery

basilonereborn

and if someone isnt immuno compromised and can get vaccine but decided not too even though they are in bad health, thats their fault

1aveator

allow me to avoid your public health policies then

basilonereborn

maybe the immuno compromised should take one for the team instead and live accordingly instead of expecting everyone else to bend over for them

1aveator

yet we ask that they get the disease and survive? Do we really know the impact of those consequences yet?

basilonereborn

we dont really know yet but either way its ridiculous to make that judgement call for someone else its their health at stake too and they dont owe it to society to take one for the team

contador6292

that's so stupid how he didn't lost it

1aveator

@ilikecakeyo It is about personal responsibiliity. I agree

1aveator

Which is lower? The potential of side effects, or the disease itself?

basilonereborn

i havent brought up big pharma my point is low risk people dont have obligation to subject themselves to potential vaccine side effects

ilikecakeyo

Your just making up moronic arguments that make no sense, it's about personal responsibility.

1aveator

\"It should be on poor health individuals to take that precation\"- what kinds of poor health are you refering to?

ilikecakeyo

If you are immuno compromised then don't go to a bar, or a concert, or whatever, if your worried about drunk drivers, stay off the road. How is that complicated?

ilikecakeyo

What are you talking about? I gave an example, that wasnt it, your making stuff up

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