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Dec 11, 2021 20:01:19

krastorius

@ilikecakeyo yeah yeah but dont you want to save old ppl? you want them to die? whataboutism
Dec 11, 2021 20:01:18

nosliwreborn

no one said covid vaccine prevents contraction or one's ability to spread the virus
Dec 11, 2021 20:01:16

dumaistv

anti vaxer freedom fighters Kappa
Dec 11, 2021 20:01:08

arcamisthegreat

as many times as it takes to give you an aneurism
Dec 11, 2021 20:00:42

gabok222

Sure is C O H discussion in here Kappa
Dec 11, 2021 20:00:20

ilikecakeyo

There was a comedian at a comedy club, fully vaxxed, all attendees fully vaxxed, he gave Covid to 40 fully vaxxed ppl
Dec 11, 2021 20:00:17

nosliwreborn

sick panther micro
Dec 11, 2021 20:00:09

dumaistv

LUL
Dec 11, 2021 19:59:46

basilonereborn

not the worst outcome but not something those arent odds i like in exchange for potentially encountering someone else that cant get vaccine that I could infect (which i could still infect anyway with vaccine or not)
Dec 11, 2021 19:59:33

ilikecakeyo

Take the flu for example, the flu shot on paper seems to work, but further studies show more health concious ppl get the flu shot, so the stats show healthy ppl not at risk to it get the shot
Dec 11, 2021 19:59:24

krastorius

the crisis just shows, that you cant discuss with vacc fans, they ignore all facts and they love whataboutism.
Dec 11, 2021 19:58:57

mr_sleaze

Anyone over 30 should get vaxxed 100% though
Dec 11, 2021 19:58:44

ilikecakeyo

I'm not so sure, based of statistica theories it might actually not
Dec 11, 2021 19:58:38

mr_sleaze

If you're under the age of like 30 the side effects of the vaccine are worse than covid
Dec 11, 2021 19:58:27

basilonereborn

only time will tell what the risk is more serious issues but I know 3 people that got sirva
Dec 11, 2021 19:58:05

1aveator

Does the vax reduces severity?
Dec 11, 2021 19:57:37

ilikecakeyo

Covid spreads anyway vax or no vax, already been established. Imagine if this was like smallpox and it wasn't mutating, we wouldnt have this discussion rn.
Dec 11, 2021 19:57:34

1aveator

Whats the case basilone? any references I can look at?
Dec 11, 2021 19:57:10

basilonereborn

if the worst side effect of the vaccine was a 2 day moderate illness id probably see things differently but that isnt the case
Dec 11, 2021 19:57:04

1aveator

Whats my extent cake?
Dec 11, 2021 19:56:46

1aveator

But doesnt spreading covid give people risk?
Dec 11, 2021 19:56:40

ilikecakeyo

Again goes back to how far we take it, i don't agree to the extent your taking it to.
Dec 11, 2021 19:56:09

basilonereborn

im not saying someone with ebola should be able to walk around freely willy nilly and infect everyone else because they dont want to quarantine, but no you shouldnt be expected to take a risk because there is a possibility that could put someone else at risk
Dec 11, 2021 19:55:55

1aveator

The responsibility rests on all of us. Each person has their own resposibility to the whole of society
Dec 11, 2021 19:55:00

ilikecakeyo

The responsibility falls on the high risk individuals, and if they choose to live life like 2019 i support them.
Dec 11, 2021 19:54:19

1aveator

@1aveator I am advicating for the lack of mandates not more. Im just saying doing nothing is not responsible
Dec 11, 2021 19:53:40

ilikecakeyo

@1aveator I don't think we agree, your idea of personal responsibilty revolves around athoritarian views, mine don't.
Dec 11, 2021 19:53:23

1aveator

its 2021. We have the science to understand this kind of stuff. We dont have the culture to do \"enough\" about it
Dec 11, 2021 19:52:20

1aveator

Thats almost like saying if I am in good health, I dont want to take any risk other than what I consider to be a signicant risk? Almost like your life in that regard is some how more valuable than the arbitrary health of those at risk?
Dec 11, 2021 19:51:32

basilonereborn

thats not an absolute position i could see the situation changing depending on the severity of the virus, a long history of the vaccine, etc. but not in this particular situation with covid

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