| user name /\ | message | ||
| krastorius | @tcSONGS actually i would prefer intel stocks | ||
| boxman600 | @tcSONGS The yields have always been an issue... the whole reason we have lower-tier chips is mostly from the higher-tier chips failing the yield benchmarks... a single wafer typically only hits 70% or less... | ||
| edgewalker69 | Thats right | ||
| elnur009 | is that true bros? | ||
| elnur009 | damn that means I have to buy a laptop before Taiwan gets invaded | ||
| tcsongs | Intel is very behind. that's all I can say. | ||
| tcsongs | and we want more bleeding-edge tech here. so they chose pheonix along with intel | ||
| tcsongs | more that the threat of taiwan being the world's only supply of <7nm chips is a major risk | ||
| krastorius | @krastorius i have many stocks, but not these. too expensive imo | ||
| edgewalker69 | Is that correctly understood? | ||
| edgewalker69 | So TSMC and intel are moving production from Taiwan to the USA, because China is not to be trusted, they are asshole? | ||
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| tcsongs | @krastorius I would personally buy AMD and TSMC stock ahead of then, but that's me :^) | ||
| elnur009 | we are all high school dropouts here | ||
| elnur009 | yeah lower level engrish pls | ||
| krastorius | Lisa Su (AMD) said these days, production will ramp up at second half 2022 | ||
| gravemouthcoh | keep those conversations more simple pls | ||
| tcsongs | @tcSONGS boxman. I design the machines and am privy to their yields. yields are not lower. | ||
| gravemouthcoh | my brain is hurting boys | ||
| tcsongs | @edgewalker69 TSMC and Intel, but the important one is TSMC because they are the only ones on <7nm which constitutes a literal strategic asset, is a reason taiwan is under threat of invasion, and why biden just singed $29B for them in funding. | ||
| boxman600 | @tcSONGS Maybe with the specific chips you make... However, the yield on high-density chips is much lower, which is why both AMD and intel are changing their manufacturing processes for how chips are made ot deal with the yield issues... | ||
| tcsongs | TSMC's machines are my machines -- and we are on a very long timeline even for the immediate future. all major IC companies have already increased capacity as much as they can and are running the machines ragged | ||
| edgewalker69 | Who are the companies moving production to Phoenix? And from where? Taiwan? | ||
| tcsongs | you think TSMC would allow us to charge them for LESS yield? absolutely not |