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Sep 29, 2021 00:26:20	boxman600	@tcSONGS Maybe with the specific chips you make... However, the yield on high-density chips is much lower, which is why both AMD and intel are changing their manufacturing processes for how chips are made ot deal with the yield issues...
Sep 29, 2021 00:26:10	tcsongs	TSMC's machines are my machines -- and we are on a very long timeline even for the immediate future. all major IC companies have already increased capacity as much as they can and are running the machines ragged
Sep 29, 2021 00:25:43	edgewalker69	Who are the companies moving production to Phoenix? And from where? Taiwan?
Sep 29, 2021 00:25:11	tcsongs	you think TSMC would allow us to charge them for LESS yield? absolutely not
Sep 29, 2021 00:25:02	krastorius	@edgewalker69 mining demand, higher demand from companies and customers, problems in production because corona
Sep 29, 2021 00:24:55	tcsongs	boxman I am LITERALLY responsible for what you're talking about. yield is not down.
Sep 29, 2021 00:24:49	gravemouthcoh	i want xcom's opinion on ridiculous graphics card prices in the lasy year or so
Sep 29, 2021 00:24:39	edgewalker69	So not simple after all Kappa
Sep 29, 2021 00:24:30	boxman600	@boxman600 Huh? of course it's true, the yield on higher-density chips is much lower
Sep 29, 2021 00:24:15	tcsongs	crypto is a factor in GPU pricing, but china just banned crypto, so...
Sep 29, 2021 00:24:04	1aveator	also crypto burning chips?
Sep 29, 2021 00:23:56	tcsongs	@boxman600 not true at all but okay
Sep 29, 2021 00:23:47	boxman600	High demand on chips and the yield of chips is lower now
Sep 29, 2021 00:23:32	tcsongs	@edgewalker69 misprojection of demand. they expected it to be low, it was high, and now they don't have time on the fabs. apple has no issues because they correctly forecasted
Sep 29, 2021 00:23:29	elnur009	I already have a mockup
Sep 29, 2021 00:23:15	elnur009	@tcSONGS can you design something for me sir songs?
Sep 29, 2021 00:23:10	gravemouthcoh	@tcSONGS any chance they will accept you back to reborn clan if you make a discount for them? CoolStoryBob
Sep 29, 2021 00:23:09	1aveator	supply is low while demand is rising. Simple
Sep 29, 2021 00:23:01	jaminrock	cryptocurrency mining
Sep 29, 2021 00:22:58	tcsongs	capacity is booked out until two years in the future. new capacity is only coming online when the fabs in pheonix are both up and running
Sep 29, 2021 00:22:55	edgewalker69	And what will make it fall again
Sep 29, 2021 00:22:45	edgewalker69	So what factor is driving up the price?
Sep 29, 2021 00:22:29	boxman600	They won't..
Sep 29, 2021 00:22:22	tcsongs	@edgewalker69 I work in this industry doing design on those chip fabs lmao
Sep 29, 2021 00:22:18	krastorius	its not a thing how many gpus i can buy, i dont want to buy a gpu for these prices.
Sep 29, 2021 00:22:07	elnur009	since they shut off miners
Sep 29, 2021 00:22:01	elnur009	maybe you can buy cheap from china?
Sep 29, 2021 00:21:58	edgewalker69	How do you know?
Sep 29, 2021 00:21:32	tcsongs	GPU prices aren't going down until 2024
Sep 29, 2021 00:20:57	edgewalker69	KappaWealth

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