user name | message | ||
basilonereborn |
and if someone isnt immuno compromised and can get vaccine but decided not too even though they are in bad health, thats their fault | ||
1aveator |
allow me to avoid your public health policies then | ||
basilonereborn |
maybe the immuno compromised should take one for the team instead and live accordingly instead of expecting everyone else to bend over for them | ||
1aveator |
yet we ask that they get the disease and survive? Do we really know the impact of those consequences yet? | ||
basilonereborn |
we dont really know yet but either way its ridiculous to make that judgement call for someone else its their health at stake too and they dont owe it to society to take one for the team | ||
contador6292 |
that's so stupid how he didn't lost it | ||
1aveator |
@ilikecakeyo It is about personal responsibiliity. I agree | ||
1aveator |
Which is lower? The potential of side effects, or the disease itself? | ||
basilonereborn |
i havent brought up big pharma my point is low risk people dont have obligation to subject themselves to potential vaccine side effects | ||
ilikecakeyo |
Your just making up moronic arguments that make no sense, it's about personal responsibility. | ||
1aveator |
\"It should be on poor health individuals to take that precation\"- what kinds of poor health are you refering to? | ||
ilikecakeyo |
If you are immuno compromised then don't go to a bar, or a concert, or whatever, if your worried about drunk drivers, stay off the road. How is that complicated? | ||
ilikecakeyo |
What are you talking about? I gave an example, that wasnt it, your making stuff up | ||
1aveator |
Im actually agrueing for persnal resposibility not authoritarianism | ||
ilikecakeyo |
Your grasping straws now, you get the point, you have no counter other than you want more authoritarianism to feel safe | ||
1aveator |
What kinds of health should we bar from society? who is the arbiter in that? | ||
1aveator |
I dont have to drive to be hit by a drunk | ||
ilikecakeyo |
It should be on poor health individuals to take that precation, just like it's on you to decide you shouldnt drive if your at risk getting hit by a drunk. It's really that simple | ||
1aveator |
And not having a mandate would be the best | ||
1aveator |
and big pharma making money is not a justifiable excuse to that. This is a problem but its a different problem. | ||
1aveator |
@BasiloneReborn Im saying if you participate in a society in which vulnerable people are at risk through your direct actions, knowlengly or not, you have an obligation to lower the risk towards the negative impact to overall health | ||
basilonereborn |
are you saying everyone should have to get vaccinated because they could encounter someone immuno compromised that cant get the vaccine | ||
1aveator |
I choose to drive because I know the risks. We can lower the risk by restricting liberty with regards to blood alchohal content and compliance checks | ||
ilikecakeyo |
Imagine if we banned swimming pools, because you know, a few kids drown in them every year. How far do we go? | ||
capricciosa |
You have been playing too much Deus-ex eggscom | ||
1aveator |
and to be clear I agree with xcom about mandates. But they just choose another issue about the illuminati or Big pharma | ||
ilikecakeyo |
Is how your treating rona, it's dumb | ||
ilikecakeyo |
You shouldn't drive because you might get hit by a drunk. | ||
ilikecakeyo |
No it doesn't | ||
1aveator |
@ilikecakeyo That suggests we do nothing about drunk drivers |